Comments on: ‘Traduttore-traditore’ http://vward.wordpress.com/2007/06/30/traduttore-traditore/ Noticings and random detours to see where they take me. Sun, 04 Jan 2009 13:11:23 +0000 http://wordpress.com/ hourly 1 By: vward http://vward.wordpress.com/2007/06/30/traduttore-traditore/#comment-64 vward Sat, 28 Jul 2007 08:50:50 +0000 http://vward.wordpress.com/2007/06/30/traduttore-traditore/#comment-64 The threads that are spun from a small sticky start. Both these posts have lead me to new places and back to my own post in the most thought-provoking way which reminds me of a knowledge conference I was at in the Hague a few years back when we were running some story workshops (another story line which is, as my dear friend Clive would say, orthogonal to this one). We had a video recorder and some fun cooking up the next wave of management thing, coined by Mark Field as 'synthalpy' - the positive energy released when 2 worlds collide. We collected serious interviews with people about this new management approach and its implications. I think they must all have disappeared when we lost the office (not carelessly, on purpose). But synthalpy has stuck with me and I often notice in in the generosity and openness which is at the heart of us knowledge enquirers. The threads that are spun from a small sticky start. Both these posts have lead me to new places and back to my own post in the most thought-provoking way which reminds me of a knowledge conference I was at in the Hague a few years back when we were running some story workshops (another story line which is, as my dear friend Clive would say, orthogonal to this one). We had a video recorder and some fun cooking up the next wave of management thing, coined by Mark Field as ’synthalpy’ – the positive energy released when 2 worlds collide. We collected serious interviews with people about this new management approach and its implications. I think they must all have disappeared when we lost the office (not carelessly, on purpose). But synthalpy has stuck with me and I often notice in in the generosity and openness which is at the heart of us knowledge enquirers.

]]> By: Knowledge in translation · No Straight Lines http://vward.wordpress.com/2007/06/30/traduttore-traditore/#comment-57 Knowledge in translation · No Straight Lines Fri, 27 Jul 2007 00:39:45 +0000 http://vward.wordpress.com/2007/06/30/traduttore-traditore/#comment-57 [...] brought back to mind by a post by Jack Vinson and his thoughts on a post by Victoria Ward entitled Traduttore-traditore, in which she discusses the challenges of (you guessed it) translating poetry. Comparing the [...] [...] brought back to mind by a post by Jack Vinson and his thoughts on a post by Victoria Ward entitled Traduttore-traditore, in which she discusses the challenges of (you guessed it) translating poetry. Comparing the [...]

]]> By: Brett http://vward.wordpress.com/2007/06/30/traduttore-traditore/#comment-49 Brett Tue, 24 Jul 2007 22:03:10 +0000 http://vward.wordpress.com/2007/06/30/traduttore-traditore/#comment-49 Another excellent discussion of the topic is Douglas Hofstadter's 1997 book <em>Le Ton Beau de Marot</em>, in which he and several colleagues translate a 16th century French poem into English. As part of the "challenge", Hofstadter establishes some guidelines which the translators must follow (establishes a bit of context), but the results are still incredibly diverse. In addition to an analysis of each of the translations, Hofstadter's analysis of the translation process - how the brain works - is quite interesting and revealing. Another excellent discussion of the topic is Douglas Hofstadter’s 1997 book Le Ton Beau de Marot, in which he and several colleagues translate a 16th century French poem into English. As part of the “challenge”, Hofstadter establishes some guidelines which the translators must follow (establishes a bit of context), but the results are still incredibly diverse.

In addition to an analysis of each of the translations, Hofstadter’s analysis of the translation process – how the brain works – is quite interesting and revealing.

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